How do we get people we love to stop using drugs and alcohol
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Updated a long time ago.
The show opens with Michael getting kicked out of the N/A facebook group! We talk AA shaming, abstinence is not the only way, what to do when you're prescribed pain meds after a surgery, and we welcome special guest, Patty Hays. Patty is a career life counselor with 35 years of sobriety. She is awesome and you should listen.